umo mod: IRobertI's feeder on UMO v4.0

By ataraxis

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umo mod: IRobertI's feeder on UMO v4.0

By ataraxis

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umo mod: IRobertI's feeder on UMO v4.0

By ataraxis

at 2024-05-03
inspired by: https://www.youmagine.com/designs/um2-feeder-on-um1for use with: https://www.youmagine.com/designs/alternative-um2-feeder-version-two---UPDATE (v4.0):for this version, which is even more silent than version 2.0, you only need 4 fan dampeners like those: http://www.amazon.com/GELID-Solutions-Silicone-Vibration-Dampening/dp/B003Q5GI2U---UPDATE (v2.0):i updated the design and uploaded a new model with dampers (you need three dampers 15x15mm  - M4 and three screws PH2 M4x10mm), works pretty good so far ;). i also added a picture that compares the noise before the dampers where installed and afterwards, it doesn't look much but it is and it also is way more silent than the original feeder.i recommend a 1.2mm walls and infill around 25%, no support is needed since it is integrated at the model files (only true for damped version)---Since the original version didn't fit for me, i redesgined the um2 feeder adapter for the um original.This one was a perfect fit at mine - it's also super rigid as you can see at the following video (printed with 0.8 shell, 30% infill, "support everywhere"!!!):http://youtu.be/1DHHGL55-m4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK3vZnc9REc---I reach up to ~12mm³/s without any underextrusion (see picture above).https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEfR5EOvXLYupdate: since I now calibrated my feeder I reach now up to 18mm³/s , didn't tried more so far...https://youtu.be/8yH8ZTfmxHoThe E-steps per mm for an Mk8 drigear should be around 365 as I read, since I am still waiting for my 400steps/rev. motor I cannot confirm that. At the original stepper it is much lower (but the original motor does not work for high quality prints - 1.8° steps are just too unprecise!).update: the stepper arrived and 340 works very fine for me! (see here for more information: http://reprap.org/wiki/Triffid_Hunter%27s_Calibration_Guide/de)update2: i was still extruding way too much! 302 is perfect now, to calibrate for the first time do the following:- pop the bowden tube out the hotend- preheat PLA (to activate the extruder motor)- extrude a bit until you can mark the filament at the bowden end- let it extrude 10mm- mark again and measure as accurate as you can- new E-steps = old E-steps * (10/measured mm)I also recommend some rubber washers between motor and the adapter to further minimize noise (it is very quiet compared to the original!). you can also use a selfmade silicone-damper as me: https://www.youmagine.com/designs/nema-17-silicon-damper-stencilAs an UMO-user you will not have an clamp for the feeder, I suggest that one:http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:46318

Technical

- 1x MK8 drive gear (ID 5mm) - 1x Stepper (NEMA 17, bipolar, 400steps/revolution (0.9°), around 44Ncm holding torque or more (e.g.: sparkfun's ROB-10846)) - XH 4pol male connector (used at LiPo balancers), or the original cable (solder and use shrink tubes) - ball bearing from the original feeder - some screws and washers (normal, spring and rubber) --- for the damped version v3 you need additionally: - 3x 15x15mm M4 rubber buffers - 3x PH2 M4x10mm screws --- for the damped version v4 you need additionally: - 4x fan decoupling slics

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Materialised3D
Materialised3D
almost 8 years
Thanks so much……….have a wonderful Day.
Jochem77
Jochem77
almost 8 years
It's in the description: "for use with: https://www.youmagine.com/designs/alternative-um2-feeder-version-two"
Materialised3D
Materialised3D
almost 8 years
Please, somebody can tell me, where is the complete model. Since I do not see the pieces that hold and push the filament, where the screw goes to adjust. Thank you very much.
ataraxis
ataraxis
over 8 years
Thanks ;) Nice to hear that!
plasmasolutions
plasmasolutions
over 8 years
It's really really silent - used the newest version with the fan dumpers and can't hear anything from the feeder anymore. Thanks a lot for your effort and this design! Amazing!
Jochem77
Jochem77
almost 9 years
Can you please show me (picture) how the fan dampeners are attached?
johnfrank
johnfrank
about 9 years
Thanks a lot! Although i havent tried yet to extrude filament.. I get filament grinding all the time.
ataraxis
ataraxis
over 9 years
<p>v4 is out, you only need 4 "fan silencers" ;)</p>
ataraxis
ataraxis
over 9 years
<p>I'm working on a different design, so maybe you want to wait a bit before you print &nbsp;the damped version ;)<br>It is way cheaper and easier to mount on the one hand and on the other also more silent!</p>
vaques
vaques
over 9 years
<p>Yes!! :) I've done something similar to my PC cooling pump using silent blocks! Are you using silent blocks also?</p>
ataraxis
ataraxis
over 9 years
<p>i updated the design and uploaded a new model with dampers (15x15mm, M4 and three screws PH2 M4x10mm), works pretty good so far ;)</p>
vaques
vaques
almost 10 years
<p>In fact mine is a little bit larger and it needs to be filed.<br><br></p><p>Regarding your new E motor, i didn't know the issue of the revolution steps in relation to first layer and accuracy as well.<br>I think, imho, that the first layer is more compicated because you need an exactly quantity of plastic extruded that with more revolution steps could be achieved.<br>My motor has 1.8 degrees per revolution, so a total of 200. I'll buy 400 revolution motors as you suggested.<br>I'll keep you informed about noise.</p><p>Thanks!</p>
ataraxis
ataraxis
almost 10 years
<p>hey vaques!<br><br>I&nbsp;think&nbsp;your&nbsp;design&nbsp;is&nbsp;also&nbsp;very&nbsp;good (thanks&nbsp;;D),&nbsp;it&nbsp;just&nbsp;didn't&nbsp;fit&nbsp;to&nbsp;my&nbsp;ultimaker&nbsp;(don't&nbsp;know&nbsp;why).<br><br>the thing is: I have bought a 400 steps per revolution stepper and you probably have the original one? i recommend to buy this one: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10846">https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10846</a><br>I read a conversation where the developers of the ultimaker said they use a 400steps/rev. motor at the&nbsp;direct&nbsp;driven&nbsp;UM2&nbsp;feeder&nbsp;because they had problems with high quality prints at&nbsp;first&nbsp;(the surface was too&nbsp;rough) . I also faced that problem, didn't you? <br><br>btw: at the moment&nbsp;I redesgin it since I&nbsp;still have too much noise (it is&nbsp;relatively&nbsp;silent&nbsp;in&nbsp;fac t&nbsp;but&nbsp;I&nbsp;installed&nbsp;the&nbsp;new&nbsp;SSS&nbsp;drivers&nbsp;and&nbsp;now&nbsp;the&nbsp;feeder&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;most&nbsp;noisy&nbsp;part^^)&nbsp;. the new design will include some space for rubber dampers (<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="https://www.google.de/search?q=rubber+dampers">https://www.google.de/search?q=rubber+dampers</a>)</p>
vaques
vaques
almost 10 years
<p>Hello Ataraxis,</p><p><br></p><p>I'm so happy to see this wonderful mod, the design is better of mine of course :)</p><p><br></p><p>Your e-steps found is 302 , mine is 156! what's happening? We've the same MK8 gear...</p>

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